Naomi Klein: 'We are seeing the beginnings of the era of climate barbarism'
The author talks about solutions to the climate crisis, Greta
Thunberg, birth strikes and how she finds hope. Read an extract from her new book, On
Fire: The Burning Case for a Green New Deal here
Why are you
publishing this book now?: I still feel that the way that we talk about climate change is too
compartmentalised, too siloed from the other crises we face. A really strong
theme running through the book is the links between it and the crisis of rising
white supremacy, the various forms of nationalism and the fact that so many
people are being forced from their homelands, and the war that is waged on our
attention spans. These are intersecting and interconnecting crises and so the
solutions have to be as well.
The book collects
essays from the last decade, have you changed your mind about anything?:
When I look back, I don’t think I placed enough emphasis on the challenge climate change poses to the left. It’s more obvious the way the climate crisis challenges a rightwing dominant worldview, and the cult of serious centrism that never wants to do anything big, that’s always looking to split the difference. But this is also a challenge to a left worldview that is essentially only interested in redistributing the spoils of extractivism [the process of extracting natural resources from the earth] and not reckoning with the limits of endless consumption.
When I look back, I don’t think I placed enough emphasis on the challenge climate change poses to the left. It’s more obvious the way the climate crisis challenges a rightwing dominant worldview, and the cult of serious centrism that never wants to do anything big, that’s always looking to split the difference. But this is also a challenge to a left worldview that is essentially only interested in redistributing the spoils of extractivism [the process of extracting natural resources from the earth] and not reckoning with the limits of endless consumption.
What’s stopping the
left doing this?: In a North American context, it’s the greatest taboo of all to actually admit
that there are going to be limits. You see that in the way Fox News has gone
after the Green New Deal – they are coming after your hamburgers! It cuts to
the heart of the American dream – every generation gets more than the last,
there is always a new frontier to expand to, the whole idea of settler colonial
nations like ours. When somebody comes along and says, actually, there are
limits, we’ve got some tough decisions, we need to figure out how to manage
what’s left, we’ve got to share equitably – it is a psychic attack. And so the
response [on the left] has been to avoid, and say no, no, we’re not coming to
take away your stuff, there are going to be all kinds of benefits. And
there are going to be benefits: we’ll have more livable
cities, we’ll have less polluted air, we’ll spend less time stuck in traffic,
we can design happier, richer lives in so many ways. But we are going to have
to contract on the endless, disposable consumption side....
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/sep/14/naomi-klein-we-are-seeing-the-beginnings-of-the-era-of-climate-barbarism
